tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8374109812192174281.post5569826311485275423..comments2018-12-04T09:05:03.647-08:00Comments on russpoldrack.org: Statistical Thinking for the 21st Century - a new intro statistics bookRuss Poldrackhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03305657400941743430noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8374109812192174281.post-9570377078937069802018-11-21T06:34:55.072-08:002018-11-21T06:34:55.072-08:00great, thanks Ben!great, thanks Ben!Russ Poldrackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03305657400941743430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8374109812192174281.post-16192705655414391502018-11-21T06:34:43.789-08:002018-11-21T06:34:43.789-08:00Thanks Opher! I agree that it would be nice to ha...Thanks Opher! I agree that it would be nice to have more mathematical sophistication as well as exercises. Since I haven't used the book yet in the course (will do so starting in January) I don't have a well fleshed out set of exercises, but I hope to add them in the future. <br /><br />re: the Bayes chapter, I agree that it's limited, but that's largely due to the fact that this is meant for an audience without the level of mathematical or computational sophistication to handle working directly with something like JAGS or STAN. I wanted to still give them a feel for the Bayesian approach, without scaring them off. <br /><br />I can see a couple of alternatives - one would be to include some additional sections that one could unfold for greater detail (I think that's possible with Gitbooks but need to figure out details). Another would be to have multiple versions of the book, with different degrees of mathematical detail. Once I've taught with it this winter, I will reconsider these options and hope to get back to you at that point. would love your input and contributions!Russ Poldrackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03305657400941743430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8374109812192174281.post-35705857002435233262018-11-21T00:02:29.763-08:002018-11-21T00:02:29.763-08:00Hello Russ, this book looks really good. I have be...Hello Russ, this book looks really good. I have been teaching statistics to biomedical engineers out of Slinker and Glanz Primer of Applied Regression for many years now and your book has a bunch of advantages. <br />There are two things that will slow me down and I wonder if they aren't easy fixes (or things I could help with, if you're interested): (1) exercises at the end of chapters help enormously when using a textbook; I understand you may have these available from teaching the course. (2) slightly more mathematical sophistication, especially in building the relationship between the chi squared distribution and the F and t tests and for understanding the relationship between the least squared fits and the parameters estimates in a regression model. I can understand the math might make more sense as optional chapters, given the spirit of the book, but I think they're important for an audience with a little more technical background.<br />One more thing that I thought just now is that the Bayesian chapter seems to me to undersell the power of the Bayesian approach. Bayesian methods seem to me to take their power from the shift in emphasis from hypothesis testing to parameter estimation and from the flexibility in model selection that comes with an approach based in JAGS or Stan. I'm not sure how to fix this, but the current chapter seems problematic to me.<br />I solve the Bayes problem by teaching a classical course to undergraduates and a Bayesian course to graduate students. It gives me the opportunity to pretend I'm like the physicists who get to introduce modern physics by telling the students everything they learned so far is completely wrong.Opher Donchinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04922496263220118414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8374109812192174281.post-3058113856604442502018-11-20T23:21:12.881-08:002018-11-20T23:21:12.881-08:00Give a free copy and all Indians learn it freely. ...Give a free copy and all Indians learn it freely. Luxy K Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18227577483052850669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8374109812192174281.post-84867128578196581682018-11-20T17:46:52.595-08:002018-11-20T17:46:52.595-08:00I teach undergrad stats tobpsych majors... Id be i...I teach undergrad stats tobpsych majors... Id be interested in the paper version.Ben Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09999038088307539977noreply@blogger.com